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October 25, 2009

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Ca$hD

So, I am still responding to the other prejudice blog that was posted the other day, because I had already started it so I wouldn't have to do it this weeked :)

1. From where do we learn or develop prejudices?

I think that children start to develop prejudices from the time they are able to talk and comprehend. Children learn prejudices from their parents and the other influential people in their lives. Since kids are like sponges that absorb so much of what others say and do, it is likely that they will develop the habits of those around them. They might observe their parents steering clear of a dirty looking person at the grocery store, or making racist comments, or seeming afraid of homosexuals, or making fun of someone who is overweight. All of these prejudices become a part of the children and teach them that it is acceptable to judge someone based on their appearance, beliefs, and/or social circumstances. The all-powerful media also greatly influences prejudices by instilling an idea of the perfect individual in the minds of its followers. Anyone who has qualities that are not acceptable as defined by the media may be considered an outcast who is judged and therefore not accepted by others around them.

2. What various forms of prejudice exist in our world?

So many different forms of prejudices exist around the world. Someone may be judged based on their race, religion, gender, political views, social status and income, how they dress, sexuality, body type, and so much more. There are endless factors that people could think of to judge someone by. No matter how trivial a factor may seem to some, it is still likely that others may use this to judge a person before they really know this person.

5. Do you believe prejudice can ever be eliminated from our society? Explain

I honestly feel like prejudice could never completely be eliminated from our society because it is so embedded in everyone’s minds. I am guilty of judging people based on outer factors before I really know the person, and I think it would be really difficult to clear my mind of all of the prejudices I have aquired throughout my life. I highly doubt that I am the only person that would find this difficult. I think that our society has bred prejudice to such an extreme extent that it could never be eliminated. Again, a factor that contributes greatly to this is the media. Since it is so influential to our society, it would have to go through a dramatic transformation to eliminate all prejudice.

salsaboy

6.  If one works hard to maintain his or her reputation, it will not be destroyed. Honestly I find this statement slightly amusing because some people work very hard to acquire a bad reputation and when I think of destroying someone’s reputation, I think of their reputation getting worse with other people. If a person already has a bad reputation, then they would be unaffected by a destroyed reputation unless they do some good deed which negatively affects their bad reputation.

12. Being unfaithful to one’s marriage partner is an unforgivable act. Absolutely unforgivable! I mean, come on! If you make that type of promise to someone, there is no possible excuse that anyone could use to make up for cheating on your spouse! If there is something that your partner isn’t doing right or there’s something that you don’t like, just talk to them instead of automatically finding someone to make-up for them. It isn’t fair to either party, your spouse or your “lover”, but it’s exponentially worse if you have children. Even if they don’t understand what exactly is going on, when one parent leaves they will become heartbroken.

13.  A man who would beat his wife is not a man. If your first instinct is to result violence, you should be locked up. When a man beats his wife, he might feel more like a man, but he is far from one. A real man would settle things with words because only animals resolve things with aggression. Humans have the capability to express verbal language and have some sort of logical reasoning, which should be used to settle disputes and conflicts.

EmilyL

1. Love cannot come without trust. If you do not trust the person you claim to be in love with, it cannot be true love because when one is in love, he gives a part of his heart to his lover, trusting them to take care of it. When one is in love, he trusts his lover to not lie, cheat or do any other wrongs towards him because he believes that this love will prevent those things.
4. One cannot control the actions of another. If you do not talk about other people, that does not guarantee that other people will not talk about you. I think it would probably lower the amount of people that talked about you though because gossip is usually a negative act and if you do not talk about other people, they might not feel the need to talk negatively about you because you have not necessarily done them any wrongs through talking about them. However, I still believe that people are always going to talk about other people, and you cannot control that simply by what you do and do not say.
12. I find this to be very true. Marriage is a sacred vow to another that you will be their spouse and be there to support them in all their endeavors, no matter the situation. For one to break this vow and be unfaithful is something that is never right or acceptable. There is no situation where it is okay to break this sacred vow to your spouse, and I do not think that there are truly any excuses that would make it forgivable.


Tyler- I completely agree with you statement about numner 13. I think a lot of times the reason a man beats his wife is to esablish that "power" he thinks he has over her that makes him more of a man when in reality it makes him the opposite.

5HopeG

12. I completely agree with this statement because cheating on someone is definitely an unforgivable act. A marriage is sacred and once two people make a lifelong commitment to one another, they should be able to control themselves and not give in to temptations. Affairs within a marriage ruin relationships between the husband and wife, but also the children. If someone in a marriage cheats, then they are probably too immature because he or she could not work out their problems with their spouse.

13. A man who beats his wife is not a man, he is a coward. I believe that a guy who beats his wife is too insecure about his own feelings and he cannot face the problems in his marriage without turning to violence. I think that any man who is abusive has anger issues and always wants to be in control of the relationship. Anyone who uses violence to solve a problem most likely has very low self esteem and hurting someone is the only way for him to feel superior over his wife.

15. I disagree with the statement that some people are evil and nothing can change them. I think that someone who has done something terribly wrong can acknowledge what they have done and change their lives for the better. I believe that people can change if they really want to, but of course they will always carry the mistakes that they made throughout their lives. As ridiculous as it sounds, I think that some people who have done wrong are able to “see the light” and move on with their lives.

5HopeG

Emily: I agree that people are always going to talk about others because unfortunately everyone does it. It doesn’t matter if you try to stop it or not talk about them; people make their own decisions and gossip.

AlexW

14. Even the most honorable of people can be changed into violent murderers given the circumstances.

I can't talk about this with authority but just from observation I think that this is accurate. It just doesn't seem possible that every person who has killed someone has always been an evil murderer. Maybe they killed for a loved one, there's that whole 'I'd kill for you' saying. Or maybe life just kept handing her or him bad situation after bad situation. At some point a person just becomes broken. And while killing someone is indefensible, that doesn't mean that at one point he/she wasn't an honorable person.

15. Some people are simply evil and nothing can change them.

For the sake of my own sanity I'm going to continue to refuse that this statement is true. If there is no hope that things can get better then what is the point of living? I think that people become evil due to their circumstances and that given enough effort and their own desire to become good, they can change. Saying that evil will continue to exist no matter what is like saying there is no hope, and I think admitting defeat while I'm still a teenager is weak.

16. It is possible to misjudge even those who are closest to us.

I definitely agree with this. I fight with the people closest with me all the time, my parents, my siblings, my friends, mostly because somewhere along the way actions or their intentions got misjudged. We all keep things to ourselves, everyone has personal secrets or thoughts that never get shared. I mean, it's impossible to share every single thought that pops into someone's head. Mix that in with insecurities and just everyday problems that arise in any given situation and it's inevitable that everyone is going to be misjudged.

AlexW

Emily--I agree with everything you said, especially about not being able to control others actions. And since everyone dislikes being gossiped about, if everyone made the conscious effort to not gossip about others, it would quickly become a non-issue.

DisplayName22

4. If you don’t talk about others, others will not talk about you.

Unfortunately, I believe this is untrue for the most part. If you choose to do the right thing and not talk about others behind their back, that in no way affects another’s choice to go ahead and spread a rumor about you behind your back. It might stop some people because if you are a good person they might have a hard time finding something to talk about, but there is always that “attention seeking person” who will still talk smack no matter what the truth really is.

6. If one works hard to maintain his or her reputation, it will not be destroyed.

If you work hard to keep a clean record and a great reputation, people can still destroy it pretty easily. In some professions, all it takes is an accusation. Even if the rumor is proven untrue, the person’s reputation is still ruined, and they might possibly lose their job. Some people are just out to destroy other people. Maybe these crazy people are jealous, have some repressed anger issues, or just have no greater purpose to their life.

16. It is possible to misjudge even those who are closest to us.

I think people can easily misjudge someone whether they are a complete stranger or really close to them. All people have their secrets that they wish no one would ever find out. Sometimes these secrets are huge and affect personalities and situations in ways that were never expected. It would be a sad series of events, but it is very possible. This might not change the relationship between the two people, but it could lead to things that they would not expect.

DisplayName22

Hope- I really like what you wrote about people who are catagorized as "evil" and how they can realize what they did was wrong and change their ways for good. That is a very positive way of looking at the whole situation, but I like to think it is true too. :)

LaurelD

1. If you truly love someone, you trust the person completely. I think that to truly love someone, you need to be able to trust that person. In my opinion if you can’t trust someone, how could you be able to love them? It’s true, a relationship has many other components too that must also be there to truly love someone, but I think that trust might be the biggest component. You need to be able to tell your significant other everything no matter how strange or embarrassing because your significant other needs to see the real you. Relationships that lack trust lack a solid foundation and will rarely last longer than a few months. Being unable to trust the person you are with could lead to suspicion and jealousy, and as far as I am concerned that would be way too much stress on the relationship. I am pretty sure that you need to trust the person you are with completely if you want to have any sort of long and good relationship. I figure I could throw in a quick anecdote to help reinforce my point. My best friend dated this one guy. He was really secretive and while she told him everything he told her nothing. Long story short, he ended up having an addiction to pain killers, he broke her trust in all guys, and she ended up falling out of love pretty quickly. I think if he had told her early on of his problems, she would have felt a lot better about their relationship, but the lies and suspicion ended up taking a huge toll on her.

4. If you don’t talk about others, others will not talk about you. This statement just seems crazy to me. I can name quite a few people who do not engage in talking about/ gossiping about others, but I have still heard others who will talk about these people. I wish it worked this way, like if I never talked about people they would never talk about me, but unfortunately that isn’t how life works. People will find anything they can in a person, and then they will nit pick. I am guilty of talking about others, and I am sure I have probably talked about people who have never said a bad word about me. I don’t talk about people to be mean, I just do it. It’s a bad habit. I think most everyone in our class can agree that we all talk about people and about half of the time the person probably doesn’t even deserve it. I think that two wrongs don’t make a right, so I think that if you have never talked about anyone, keep it up, because people will always talk, and you don’t need to stoop to that level. I wish I understood why we talk about people like we do, but I have no clue. One thing I do know is, people will still talk even if you don’t.

13. A man who would beat his wife is not a man. I can in no way see how a man beating his wife would make him a man, so I would have to agree with this statement. I think that if a man beats his wife he has some deeper rooted problem where he fears losing control or not being viewed as masculine. A lot of guys think of fighting as a masculine activity, so I could see how a man might choose beating his wife as a way to gain some confidence in his masculinity. It is easy to hurt someone weaker than you which is another reason a man might choose beating his wife, but then what does that prove? Hurting someone weaker than yourself proves nothing. A real man would settle his issues with his wife by talking things out. Having the power to stand up for what you believe in and resolving a conflict verbally rather than settling problems physically shows a lot of maturity, and in turn, I think it can really prove a man’s masculinity. We all have the ability to make decisions, and I think that a man who chooses to abuse his wife is actually less of a man.

LaurelD

Hope, I really loved what you said about cheating in a marriage. It is a sacred and holy union, and if someone chooses to break that vow then they have made a pretty unforgivable mistake. I think you did a good job making your point.

Did I not have to write 250 words for each of these?! That would have made life so much easier! haha

stud hoss

5. One’s reputation can easily be destroyed by a rumor. This is so true. All throughout high school many people spread rumors about other people to get back at them, as a joke, or just because they are a mean person, but these rumors can ruin a person. They can ruin relationships, a person’s pride, or friendships. For example, if someone spreads a rumor about a guy or girl cheating on their girlfriend or boyfriend, that will destroy that relationship.

13. A man who would beat his wife is not a man. That person shows no courage, dignity, or honor. First off that man is beating someone that obviously has way less strength and muscle than he does, so she doesn’t even put up a fight. Also, that man who beats his wife doesn’t gain strength or look like more of a man, it actually shows how weak and useless he is because he doesn’t have enough guts to restrain from hitting a defenseless woman.

Some people are simply evil and nothing can change them. Some people are just born with no knowledge of what is right or wrong, and can not be changed no matter how much therapy or help they receive. A prime example of a type of person who is just simply evil is a serial killer. They have no intent to kill certain people, they just do it for the “joy” of killing someone. That sounds crazy that a person can get joy out of taking the life of an innocent human being, but it happens. From the very beginning of their life they are evil, and until the day they die they will remain evil.

stud hoss

I agree 100% with you Hope. A man who beats his wife is a coward and has mental issues. He needs to get help and get out of a relationship

Kellis

1. If you truly love someone, you trust the person completely.
I believe that loving another person comes with a great deal of vulnerability. Without trust, this can completely tear a person apart. One has to able to trust their significant other with their secrets, their deepest thoughts, and their heart. If one has to worry about being embarrassed or sounding foolish in front of the person they “love,” they cannot trust this person not to hurt them. A relationship needs trust from both sides in order to last through hard times.

9. Those who gossip are usually jealous of those they gossip about.
This is a common belief, but I have to wonder whether it is true. I try to think with my own experience, because unfortunately I have to admit that I do gossip more often than I should. Every person that comes to mind that I have recently talked about has some talent or characteristic that I envy. But then I think, and there are very few people that I do not envy in some way, shape, or form. As a result, it is hard to determine whether I gossip because I am jealous or gossip for other reason. Either way, it is an unfortunate habit.

16. It is possible to misjudge even those who are closest to us.
This is certainly true. Those who are closest to us are the people we know the best, but they are generally also the people we see the most often. Personally, I rarely get into confrontations with people, but it seems that it would be easier to misjudge and fight with those that are closest to us because there is an understood trust that those people will always love and forgive each other.


Alex- I agree that I would rather believe that people are not inherently evil. It gives me hope to think that everyone has the ability to change.

5KatiePe

3. People more readily believe something bad about a person than something good. Good or bad, we believe things about people before we know them or understand them. It is purely human nature to judge based on what we hear, see, or think is true about a person. In fact, judgement, for a high school student, is one of the most daunting things to be faced walking down school halls and in the streets. But do we believe the bad before the good? This is entirely subjective and for the most part, depends on a personal view of the human race in general. If you run into a person who believes in being as minimally judgemental as possible and seeing the good in everyone (an optimist), then they would readily believe the good rumors and, generally, dismiss the bad. However, on the opposite end of that spectrum, if you were to run into a person who easily judges those as a form of protecting himself and who believes the human race to be full of evil (a pessimist), then they would likely believe the bad before they would accept the good.
In the end, the willingness to see a person a ceratin way based on what is heard about said person generally has its basis in the individual conceptions about mankind and the people around oneself.

6. If one works hard to maintain his or her reputation, it will not be destroyed.
There's a difference between repuation and person. If one works to maintain their person and their identity, it will not be destroyed, this I believe to be true, because there is no doubt that confidence in who you are and who you are meant to be will, in the end, triumph over attempts to destroy your person.
However, a respuation is not the same thing as identity and person. Reputation is all about what people think of you, all about what people say about you, and all about other people. Reputation is as much about yourself as identity is about the people around you. If that makes sense. In the end, a reputation can be whatever you create it to be, but it's also subject to the input of people outside of yourself, that being something that you cannot and will not completely control. So you can work as hard as you want to build up a reputation, but in doing so, there is no guarantee that you will build up who you actually are, and that is the basis upon which people should actually see you. A reputation is a facade of who we want to be according to the public eye, when in reality, identity is what should be seen, not hidden and falsely "maintained" through a reputation that doesn't represent the person within.

15. Some people are simply evil and nothing can change them. I have a system of beliefs in people in general that refuses to let me believe this. In order for me as a person to make it through anything that doesn't agree with my personal well-being, be that emotional, mental, or physical, there has to be an ounce of hope in the people who wrong me in order for me to be okay with the world in general. People do things that I don't agree with. They make mistakes and they purposely hurt those closest to them, be it out of a vindictive nature or an unstable emotional state. But there is not one person that I know of, or have ever heard of, that is simply good or evil. We are more than two dimensional, which makes life interesting and worthwhile. There is no such thing as a person who is only evil, because then there would be no hope and there would be no reason to recreate yourself and to love that person (or anyone, for that matter) after being hurt. There is no such thing as pure evil in human form.

Kelly:
I'm right there with you for your response to number 9. I can't ever figure that one out, but it's something that I'm trying to control because I hate the thought of it. Some people, I do truly envy, while others, I'm not really sure why I would gossip about.

Diesel

3. People more readily believe something bad about a person than something good.
In order for this statement to be true it should be reworded. People more readily spread bad things about a person rather than good things. People will believe both good and bad things about people pretty much equally. But most of the time they ignore the good things and spread the bad things. People in general are just more entertained with hearing bad things about other people. It makes the people feel better about them when they hear bad gossip about their peers. Good news about people often does not get around because the good makes people jealous and sometimes spiteful of the one who did the good.
4. If you don’t talk about others, others will not talk about you.
I do not agree with this statement at all. No matter how nice you are or how much you do not talk about people, there are people who will always want to talk bad about you and tear you down. These people are just jealous of the ones who do not need to talk bad about people in order to make them feel better. In some cases, the people who don’t talk about others are the ones who are talked about the most. Gossipers want to make themselves feel better than the nice people so they tear others down.
11. In marriage, many men will excuse their own unfaithfulness but will condemn their wives for doing the same thing.
I do not think it is fair to men and say that they are the ones who are hypocritical when it comes to loyalty in marriage. When a situation of disloyalty is going on in a marriage, both men and women often excuse themselves but condemn their spouse. Both husband and wife do not know how bad infidelity hurts their spouse until it happens to them. The anger and pain felt towards the disloyal spouse causes one to forget his or her own sins and only condemn the sins of the spouse. It is not a matter of only men doing it or only women doing it. Both males and females look to point the finger away from themselves and towards their spouse.

Diesel

Tyler, I like how you went a different route in responding to number 6. Everyone else only thought of how a good reputation can be destroyed.You had a different answer than others because you looked at it in a completely different way.

Caitlin

3. People more readily believe something bad about a person than something good.

I think that in most cases this is true. The human race has a way of not being able to trust one another, and this is partly the reason. We try to find the worst qualities in others so as to not be disappointed when/if they demonstrate those bad qualities.
Self-esteem is another aspect in seeing the bad in other people. As humans, we like to think the most of ourselves and think that we can do everything better than anyone else. Whether it is talent, or personality traits, we have to be the best. Therefore, we find the flaws in other people and make these flaws more prominent.

6. If one works hard to maintain his or her reputation, it will not be destroyed.

I disagree with this statement. Anyone’s reputation could be destroyed at any given moment, no matter how hard they work to maintain it. An example is from the characteristics of a classic tragic hero that Ms. Thompson gave us. One of the ways to be considered tragic is to be elevated above every other commoner, but then fall from these great heights losing that sense of importance.

15. Some people are simply evil and nothing can change them.

I completely disagree with this statement. I believe that anyone can change if they really put their mind to it and actually have the will and the persistence to change. Even the most evil person can have that one experience in their life giving them the need or drive to change; whether it is for love or for death. Having the hope that evil can be taken out of this world is all that we can live for. If that hope is taken away and if people don’t believe, then evil can never change.

Caitlin

Hope, I like what all you said about being unfaithful within a marriage. It really is immature, and once that promise is made to each other at the alter, the two should be able to enjoy each other instead of having to find "pleasure" with other people.

5AvrielG

7. You can love someone and be jealous of them. If your siblings are smarter, more likable, or more athletic than you, jealousy kicks in. You still love them because they are family and they are apart of your life as much as you are of theirs but you can still be jealous. A married couple can be jealous of one another. One could be more successful than the other and the other is jealous because they want to be as successful as their significant other. In my experience good is closely followed by the bad. So maybe love’s bad is jealousy.
15. If people are evil it is because something horrendous has happened to them. Some one can not start out evil because people are not inherently evil. People who are evil have chosen to be based off of some experience that would have had them become a bad person. But then again people are not bad it is their choices that are bad. So a person is measured by the choices they make and the choices they make contribute to their character. A person can be inclined to make poor choices and those poor choices can either get worse or can help them become a better person. But ultimately the choices a person makes become habit and the habit can’t be overcome unless they try really hard. So it is not overcoming evil it is overcoming the choices that a person has made and people who make those choices will continue to do so because it is habit and habit is easier than change.
16. To misjudge is easy. To misjudge a stranger is easy. To misjudge someone close to you is also easy. It’s easy because when you think you know them they turn around and surprise you. Plus people don’t give away all of their secrets. They give away facts that lead to the secrets, they sometimes tell one of those secrets, but they never tell all. A person is an iceberg. Everyone only sees the tip, only the iceberg knows that there is a bottom – miles wide, miles deep, but forever hidden from the world. To misjudge those closest to you is easy because however well you know them, you don’t know them well enough.

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2. You cannot love someone and also be jealous of him or her.

I believe a modest amount of jealously is always tolerable; yet, I do not deem it acceptable to turn into a “green-eyed monster” and let those desirous feelings take over the situation. I think jealously keeps one on their toes; it keeps a little competitive nature on the inside. For example, I openly admit that even though I love all my friends, I am jealous of many of them. Whether I envy their talent, their wit, their beauty both inside and out, I still love them. When I am with them, I always push myself to be my best. For example, I love my dear friend who happens to be a great dancer, a great musician, and an even more amazing friend… and I envy her for these traits. Every time I am performing with her, I push myself to dance and sing with her same grace and enthusiasm. That bit of jealousy pushes me to try harder and be a better version of myself. I believe that even jealousy in a relationship is acceptable because a little envy is healthy. On the other hand, too much jealousy is dangerous because it alters perspective. That jealously may overtake the love one might have for another person; replacing it with an unhealthy possessive, competitive, or angry nature.

5. One’s reputation can easily be destroyed by a rumor.

Unfortunately, I believe this is true. Many people in today’s society thrive on gossip and rumors whether at the expense of another person’s reputation or not. I have been told the only way to stop a rumor is to go to the source. But damage to one’s reputation has already commenced, and therefore views of that person have been altered. A strong person can attempt to ignore rumors but it could be detrimental to their career. Rumors spread quickly and do not discriminate against truth or not. As with a game of telephone, something can start out factual and end up being completely swayed. Anyone’s reputation can be destroyed by the spreading of a rumor or gossip, but it depends on the rumor itself. Whether spread out of jealously, personal gain, or through miscommunication, rumors can easily destroy someone's reputation.


15. Some people are simply evil and nothing can change them.

I do not believe anyone is evil. In “The Shack”, one of my favorite parts in the book is when Sarayu tells Mack that “evil is a word we use to describe the absence of good, just as we use the word darkness to describe the absence of light or death to describe the absence of life… Light and Good actually exist”. This quote stood out to me because I never thought about evil from this view point and how true it really is. Evil is the absence of good, but these “evil” people can change. They have to make the choice to turn their life around and accept God or some higher power; because I believe it is impossible to do so without any help.

5AvrielG

Caitlin - I agree with your statement about seeing the bad more readily than the good. I found your statement about flaws true. Most people don't like to admit when someone is better because, like you said, we have to be the best at everything.

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Katie Head
I agree with what you said about number sixteen. I believe that everyone is prone to judge one another, whether it be a stranger or a loved one. Many times we assume the worst in situations, judging before we have the right to do so. With strangers, we judge without knowing… assigning labels and judging prematurely. With loved ones, we judge without knowing as well. However, we do it out of care and adoration for them.

KatiePh

1. If you don’t talk about others, others will not talk about you. This is not completely true. People will always talk about you. But the good thing is that it could be good things that people are saying about you. If you don’t say hurtful things about others, then the hurtful things said about you will certainly die down, but never go away. Hurtful and sincere things will always be said about people, and it is impossible to make that go away. Some people live off of it.

2. Rumors are for the most part untrue. They come from an unreliable source, so there’s always a huge chance that they are untrue. The definition of a rumor is “a statement or report current without known authority for its truth”. It’s in the definition; you do not know for sure if it is true. Some rumors are just said so that the person saying them will get attention, and some are said so that the person saying them will deliberately hurt the person that the rumor is about. A rumor is a rumor. It is not a fact unless you know if the source is truthful.

3. Being unfaithful to one’s marriage partner is an unforgivable act. It is impossible to forgive someone for cheating on them if they are married. If you are married, you are connected together in the greatest way. It may be possible to forgive your partner after a long time if you are not married, but not if you are married. You can try as hard as you can, and probably even make yourself believe that you forgive them, but deep inside, you know that you do not forgive them.

KatiePh

oh wow, I did the numbers wrong. But anywayys...
Avriel, I like the way you did #7. I honestly didn't even think of doing it from that perspective. I was just thinking of love as in a relationship, not as your siblings, so it was cool to read that.
Alex, I agree with the statement that people turn evil through their circumstances, and hope that they can change.

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